Social Workers

[Briar_X]

Is this group full of Social Service - Social Worker hating people?
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[Anthony]

Yes, I think you have hit the nail on the head.
It gives social workers a real vote of confidence.

I am not saying that we dont get it wrong sometimes but we are not dealing
with an exact science.

Wouldnt it be nice to see a post praising the many good thing that do come
from social workers work?!!

Post by Briar_X
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[Paul]

It certainly would, but dont hold your breath. Especially from a certain
Paul Nutteing, who yet again, goes off on one about certain people. There
are some fine examples of social workers out there, but people like Paul
would nver admit or be able to see this because of a bitter, distorted and
twisted view he has. It is a very naive view, but then again, he is also a
bigot, narrow minded and obsessional. But, enough about his good points!!!!

Social work is an honourable profession. One I am proud to be in and I came
into this group to have some healthy debate on social work related topics.
Unfortunately, it does appear to attract extremists and I dont think this
will ever change.

One can only hope.

Paul

Post by Anthony
Yes, I think you have hit the nail on the head.
It gives social workers a real vote of confidence.
I am not saying that we dont get it wrong sometimes but we are not dealing
with an exact science.
Wouldnt it be nice to see a post praising the many good thing that do come
from social workers work?!!

Post by Briar_X
Is this group full of Social Service - Social Worker hating people?
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[Briar_X]

I would love to debate about work related issues. I have been lurking
here for 3 months or so, and all I see is people slating Social Services,
and social workers.

I love my job and I love my kids, I even love the interaction with their
families and friends. Do these people not realise that Social Workers
have feelings too?

They are not all hard faced, do they know that all the hurtful comments
that they get during the course of a day does to a person?

Would you rather know that when one of my children was taken into custody
I kept my professional face but cried like a baby when I got home?

Would that help them?

No I don't believe it would.
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Post by Paul
It certainly would, but dont hold your breath. Especially from a
certain Paul Nutteing, who yet again, goes off on one about certain
people. There are some fine examples of social workers out there, but
people like Paul would nver admit or be able to see this because of a
bitter, distorted and twisted view he has. It is a very naive view,
but then again, he is also a bigot, narrow minded and obsessional.
But, enough about his good points!!!!
Social work is an honourable profession. One I am proud to be in and I
came into this group to have some healthy debate on social work
related topics. Unfortunately, it does appear to attract extremists
and I dont think this will ever change.
One can only hope.
Paul

[Mike Pellatt]

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:21:01 -0800, Anthony

Post by Anthony
Yes, I think you have hit the nail on the head.
It gives social workers a real vote of confidence.
I am not saying that we dont get it wrong sometimes but we are not dealing
with an exact science.
Wouldnt it be nice to see a post praising the many good thing that do come
from social workers work?!!

Well.......

Having been a foster carer for 10 years (oh that the Government would
actually start describing us as the professionals we are - the Green
Paper falls way short on that - and don't get me started about NVQ 3,
AKA NVQ in kettle-boiling, being an appropriate qualification....) we
have worked with a number of excellent social workers. As well as some
quite excrable ones, I'm afraid to say. But they are in a great minority.
And you learn to ask when offered a placement who the child's social worker
is and refuse children if their social worker is one of the really bad ones.
Not out of a sense of revenge, but because you know you won't be part of
a team, and the child or young person will suffer.

Number one will be the one who, though no longer our family
placement worker, turned up on our doorstep the (saturday) morning
after a 15-year-old had died in our house through VSA (Volatile
Substance Abuse) with a bunch of flowers, half a bottle of brandy
and said "put one of those in a vase and the other in your coffee".

Just what we needed after the night before.

Of course, the good ones move on. An absolutely brilliant one
from our early days is now a senior manager within the local
PCT.

We're no longer foster carers though, since we spent 9 months abroad
in a developing country and will be going back there. However,
my wife is working a lot of the time for one of the county's
family centres - she knows more about the system than some of
the newer social workers !!

[Jonkat]

And I am a new contributor, you can 'blame' Mike Pellatt for that as we
correspond on another list about Uk Fostering.

In fairness I can only comment as I find. Over the ten years I have been
fostering I have known 2 realy good social workers professionally but many
of another kind. I am fortunate to have another as a very close and long
standing personal friend.

Regretable as it certainly is, the truth for us, has been that we have
enabled the kids in our care to achieve way beyond any expectations but this
has been achived in spite of rather than because of social service input. It
has been the input from our friend that we have needed to 'defend' the
children in our care from the actions and intentions of a local authority

Lets be clear though, I am not suggesting that social workers are 'nasty
folk' in any sense at all. I am though suggesting that the training offered
is inadequate, the power then given to inadequately trained individuals is
excesive, the work load rediculous, the work range absurd for any individual
and that the consequence of all that can be dangerous for children.

Of course, selecting trainees by quality not quantity and then training them
well followed by a reasonable work load in a limited area of the work will
cost a small fortune and in the mean time foster carers, who actually do the
work with the kids, will probably continue to be undervalued, undertrained,
underpaid and ultimately undermined.

Jon.

[paul nutteing]

Post by Briar_X
Is this group full of Social Service - Social Worker hating people?
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Well 3 valid targets are
Stella Maria CONSTANT,C&F, Salisbury
John Barton STODDART,area manager,Kennet& Avon,C&F
Dr Raymond Lawrence JONES,sort of director, Wilts SS

Otherwise i know 3 social workers socially
and they seem pretty regular guys

http://www.nutteing.chat.ru/nutteing3.htm full story
or nutteing3 in a search engine
or nutteing2 for the evidence
Paul Nutteing,Hampshire,England

e mail ***@quickfindit.....com (just one dot)

[Plant]

A breath of fresh air....... very welcomed comments.

[Briar_X]

Post by Plant
A breath of fresh air....... very welcomed comments.

who was that to?
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