no rehabilitation possible - hear my story

[louise whiting]

Would just like some comments on the legality of our case - or what the ****
do we do next.

I am married to a beautiful woman 24 years my junior. (Italian extraction)
I will not put anything here that I cannot verify as true.

3 year ago Child in care with G/parents - I start going out with my wife
approx. 2 months after removal. (Not met child).

Child quite happy to talk to me on phone until "Grandad" snatchs phone off
child and tells me to get out of flat and he says I am a pervert.

Various bitter exchanges between both parties cumilating in mother accusing
G/dad of fondling her breasts. 9 months before police checks completed - so
no contact for me with child until completed.

Various reports saying wife making story up. Child not prepared to meet me
because of "rumours" - childs wishes must be respected ect.

Glowing reports of excellent job G/parents doing - child difficult with
mother wants to stay with G/parents.

2 year ago child removed to wifes brother 125 mile away because of G/parents
"ill-heath".

Total war between G/parent, brother and wife social services make matters
worst by not letting my wife have her brothers phone number - brother
refuses to let wife in his house. Strict times for phone calls and contact.

Everything has to go through Social Services it is impossible to get a
answer in under 2 weeks, expenses not paid for months over £200.00 owing at
onetime.
This has reached a point I am finding the finacial burden impossible in the
very near future we will just not be able to afford to have contact for my
wife.

The child has a nack of setting her mother up for a reprimand from Social
Services she tell her mother one thing then tell the carers the oposite.

We have got about another 5 years of all this hassle. At this point in time
I have to drive to another town 7 miles away to avoid contact with the child
when I drive wife to the contact venue. the childs wishes ect. ect.

This week has been the final straw for me. Both of us banned from the
childs school because SS had not authouried the Sportsday contact - this
after the child had begged for her mother to go - now denies it. Woman with
connections with SS!!?? (maybe - knew all the right names and said she was
qualified to work with children) calls on G/parents while we are there and
trys to convince G/parents to patch thing up with brother. Tells me to my
face "The reason the child is not back with her mother is because I have a
criminal conviction and and am a "Section one offender". I think she means
Schedual. She asked me all about the police check forms - what colour ect.
ect. to prove I have had them. I have in fact had 4 police checks in 3 years
and have never committed any offenced not even parking tickets or speeding.
I got beaten up in the local park 2 years ago because of G/dads lies - don't
want to go through that again.

Right or wrong I have told my wife it is me or that child soon. I would not
have the child back with us in anycase now. Personally I think the best
thing to happen would be for the carers to move 400 miles away.

I have kept this criptic on purpose because I have reached a point where I
don't trust SS, solicitors, friends or relations anymore.

Any help or crumbs of comfort much apreciated

Thank in advance John

P.S. G/dad has been caught out big time this week proving my wife right all
along - see ever cloud has a silver lining Bye.

[Ancient One]

Don't worry John...

You are not alone!!!

Sounds to me like yet another case of the SS making things totally
unworkable.

Question:
Is there a court order prohibiting disclosure of phone number/contact
details?, I was told that social services cannot withold from the biological
parent contact details of where the child is kept unless there is a
prohibitation of such in place

Did you know school must communicate with parents, even absent one's

Have you investigated Libel path on g/parents, if the bloke is putting it
about something as serious as that, then you have a serious case

Why wasn't an assessment done again on home family? SS should have tried to
facilitate family promotion first and investigated suitability with mother
before anyone else.

Schedule 1 listing, you may find you have been listed as one without your
knowledge, social services have a way firstly of getting you onto List 99,
secondly they will list you on file as a "suspect" which is about the same
as being convicted. All it takes is a disclosure, I would use the Data
Protection Act and have your files checked and demand also that social
services make a statement in letter to you telling you either you are or you
aren't.

Which SS are we talking about?

Why don't you come and look at the RPSSUK and see if theres anything in
there of use

AO
RPSSUK
http://www.the-real-picture-of-uk-social-services.i8.com/

[louise whiting]

Post by Ancient One
Don't worry John...
You are not alone!!!
Sounds to me like yet another case of the SS making things totally
unworkable.
Is there a court order prohibiting disclosure of phone number/contact
details?, I was told that social services cannot withold from the biological
parent contact details of where the child is kept unless there is a
prohibitation of such in place
Did you know school must communicate with parents, even absent one's
Have you investigated Libel path on g/parents, if the bloke is putting it
about something as serious as that, then you have a serious case
Why wasn't an assessment done again on home family? SS should have tried to
facilitate family promotion first and investigated suitability with mother
before anyone else.
Schedule 1 listing, you may find you have been listed as one without your
knowledge, social services have a way firstly of getting you onto List 99,
secondly they will list you on file as a "suspect" which is about the same
as being convicted. All it takes is a disclosure, I would use the Data
Protection Act and have your files checked and demand also that social
services make a statement in letter to you telling you either you are or you
aren't.
Which SS are we talking about?
Why don't you come and look at the RPSSUK and see if theres anything in
there of use
AO
RPSSUK
http://www.the-real-picture-of-uk-social-services.i8.com/
From John

Most of what you have said we have tried. List 99 is news to me, I have
made dozens of requests to view my data all with no avail. Not allowed phone
number of Kinship carers. All contact arranged through SS. Instant relay of
information to Carers, 2 week delay for us. To us the protection Act does
not apply. As far as I am aware no Court order in place. I am sure
Parental Annailiation is taking place. Mother and me both banned from
visiting the childs School (no reason given) after wife went to school
without "authourisation" from SS. Tried to contact SS before trip nobody got
back to us. I have decided no more trip to visit child until this is sorted
out. Probally the wrong decision, but we cannot afford to go anymore. They
treat us just like naughty school children. The child says one thing to her
mother and then we get from SS a totally different version from SS. This
time they say the child was visablly upset because the child did not want
her mother to attend Sports Day - this after the child begged her mother to
after the last contact.

[Ancient One]

Treated like naughty children, that sums it up pretty well.

It is a very strange situation where children are given adult responsibility
and yet we are handed out orders and punishment like wayward kids.

Although not able to look at your case history, from what you are saying
there are blatant injustices already and denial of rights too.

many people are told they cannot get legal aid yet in reality its worth
fighting the LASC and challeneging them if denied, there are plenty of
reasons to grant LA and for this you need a strong legal team.

In my site is a link to PACT, chat to the webmaster there and define your
problems to him, hes spot on and very learned in this and maybe could give
you some pointers on what is your rights and what isn't.

On my contacts page at the RPSSUK is an anonymous email service, feel free
to use this if worried at all of privacy, you really aren't alone and there
are plennty of people willing to try and fight this sort of shameless
injustice that occurs

AO